If
the point you were making was 'x' and the other individual's point
was 'y', after a conscious conversation, both parties should have
a 'new take' on the topic which would reflect 'x' and 'y'. If either
party (or both) were asleep, they would leave the conversation as
if it had not occurred. They would remember that some discussion
took place but would not be able to remember, much less digest most
of what the other person had to say. In other words, if nothing
you say or do ever has a positive effect or has no effect at all,
you can be rest assured that nothing you have said ever was heard.
Part
of the trap of having an ego, (that psycho/spiritual faculty which
enables us to have a sense of self as alone and apart from the herd
instinct), is that the ego routinely dismisses as well as disregards
any impressions from the outside. For an ego, agreement with an
adversary, causes a loss of face/status.
Gurdjieff
once stated that "pride and vanity are two giants who walk
in from of us deciding everything in advance". In other words,
our ego blocks any impression, which will not make the ego look
good or feel good. Praise units do get noticed, but they also end
up being rejected.
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